Blogging Assignment Week 1 - due Friday January 12th by 5PM
For this week's blogging assignment (and all others), you should respond to the questions below as well as respond to two students's posts using the comment function.
Considering the fairy tales and short stories we are reading for Thursday's class, you should write on the following questions:
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How do the fairy tales by Grimm and Andersen compare with the works by Oates, Jewett, and Carter? Are they different narratives or are they the same? Why?
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Choose one of the stories and briefly discuss how the narrative is structured--where do we see examples of the hermeneutic code? the proairetic code?
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How do these earlier readings of fairy tales compare with later interpretations (Disney, etc.)? Why have events and endings been altered in contemporary readings?

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Fairy Tales (Assignment #1)
- All of the fairy tales stress morality and wholesomeness of girls and young women. Also the plots of the stories by Grim and Anderson compared to Oates, Jewett, and Carter are very similar. In “Little Red Cap” and in “In the Company of Wolves,” both plots are nearly identical in stressing the importance of sticking to the path. However, the symbolism of each story differs slightly. In “Little Red Cap,” the path merely represents obedience to one’s parents whereas in “In the Company of Wolves,” The path is keeping one’s virgin pureness and the wolves being the men wishing to rob girls of their virginity. In “The Little Mermaid” and “A White Heron,” the plots are not as parallel as the previous pair of tales, but the endings remain similar. Both girls lose the man they love even though they are true and do the right thing. “Cinderella” and “Where are you going and Where have you been?” are alike only in that the girls in each story do not have a set path laid out for them and each must find her own way. Cinderella is Rewarded for her devotion to her deceased mother whereas Connie rebels against her mother and father and allows herself to fall victim to a sexual predator (not unlike the girl in “In the Company of Wolves”).
- In the story of “Where are you going and Where have you been?” the plot is that of a girl slipping deeper and deeper into rebellion. The hermeneutic code is demonstrated when the author describes Connie in a way that a rebellious teenage girl might identify with her. Through out the plot, the proairetic code takes Connie deeper into the clutches of Arnold Friend. The climax is drawn to slowly at the end. The author does to resolve the climax at all the way the reader hopes but takes Connie deeper into the evil.
- Disney’s telling of “Cinderella” is vastly different than the original. Disney takes the basic plot and makes it less abusive for the minds and children and more cheerful. In the Disney version Cinderella does not spend all of her spare time grieving the death of her mother but instead spends her time singing about. Also, A father who stood idly by and watch as his daughter is abused by everyone in the house would not do for a children’s movie so Disney had him die as well. Lastly, there is little reason to discuss the reason that Disney left out the stepsisters cutting off their toe and heel.
I felt like the stories
I felt like the stories were much like the fairy tale versions that came as a result. The beginnings and most of the middle portions of the stories were the same as the fairytales it was the endings that made the most difference. The overall morals of the stories remained the same, that being “good” pays off in the end and the “bad guy” always gets what’s coming to him. In the story of Cinderella, the first use of the hermeneutic code that I saw was when Cinderella asks for the branch that brushes her father’s hat on his journey. Being that it was such a curious request you know that it will have something substancial to do with the story but what? This is the use a device to draw in the reader and keep them reading on and into the story to discover that the true meaning of it is. The device itself, which falls under the proairetic code is the tree that grows as a result of that branch. The tree is what provides Cinderella with her “out” from her everyday life. She can go there and receive whatever she wants. But being the “good girl” that she is, she doesn’t wish upon her “family” what they deserve but she waits and wishes only for good things for herself, never bad for others. I think in recent years we’ve adopted this mind set of sheltering our children…teaching them, perhaps falsely, that the world is this happy place in which they should have nothing to fear. We don’t want them watching toes be chopped off or people getting eaten by wolves who are later gutted for the release of the people within. This would “scare” them. So we childproof the stories such as what Disney has done, and make them more “acceptable”.
Assignment 1
The fairy tales of Grimm and Anderson share many similarities to the tales by Oates, Jewett, and Carter, but also represent an evolution from the original tales. There is a common theme in all of the stories that center on innocence, temptation, and good and evil. Repeatedly a good girl, usually vividly despripted as beautiful, innocent, and young, both symbolizes is led by curiosity or a vile being away from security, good, and her traditional world. This can be seen as an instrument of fear used to keep young children especially young women "in line," or it could be seen as a tale that lives on because it pulls on the pathos of its audience so strongly, it is told and retold through generations, updating termonology and relating it to a new audience and traditions. "The Little Mermaid" is a clear expample of what these tales have in common and uses symbols and more direct wording to stress its theme. Examples of the hermeneutic code are the questions we are left with about what the world above the sea is like or brings as the little mermaid's older sisters bring back stories or in the conlict of living without a soul. Proairetic code can be see as the mermaid is offered choices between losing her voice, leaving behind her world, or killing the prince she loves, as these bring suspense to the audience. While much of the original stories remain the same, the stories are adjusted for modern culture. These include the omission of gore and violence in stories that are meant for modern western children, as well as references to age or virginity which could cause confusion with modern culture. Basic themes of goodness and innocence and the evil that tempts or endangers them continues to passed from one generation to another, but how those are interpreted and best relate to the audience seems to change, though not always dramatically.
After reading your post I
After reading your post I noticed something that you said that I hadn't really thought on much before. You mentioned that the girls in the stories are always beautiful. That's kind of a curious thing. Not that we normally think of anyone in the spot light (TV stars, models, etc) as being ugly. But why in a child's story would they feel it necessary to always make them beautiful? That's interesting. I guess beauty if supposed to go hand in hand with being good, sweet, innocent, caring...and all those other things are ladies have in these stories. It was a good point though!
assignment 1
How do these earlier readings of fairy tales compare with later interpretations (Disney, etc.)? Why have events and endings been altered in contemporary readings?I agree with most people as they have clearly stated the closest stories are "The Company of Wloves" and "Little Red Cap". It is easy to compare the similarities in these two stories once you read through the beginning of "Company". However, "The Little Mermaid" and "Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been" also shows similarities. Both stories are about girls that escape their lives by visiting places they know they aren't suppose to be. Also other comparisons could be their age, going into womanhood, being an adventerous adolescent, the sacrifice of their body for others, and the beauty they share.2. The Hermeneutic code is present during "Little Red Cap". There are many symbols that represent the hermeneutic code such as the red cape itself, the naive girl, and the path. Another good example is the thought of why the girl is even talking to a wolf. The proairetic code is evident in the scene where the wolf does talk to the girl and finds out where grandma lives and persuades the little girl to take the long way. This gives the reader the idea that the wolf will be there waiting for her.3. These earlier readings have been changed to suit the audience today. Censorship, violence, and overall creepiness have been altered to suit the children that are told the stories. Other reasons could be by people changing the stories to have personal meanings or influences. Also Disney needed to make these stories longer, and have more subplots. Like in "Cinderella" actually having songs, and a fair god mother makes it seem more magical than a bird that doesn't talk that somehow gives her dresses.
Blog Assignment 1
The fairy tales by Grimm and Anderson do compare in some ways to the stories by Oates, Jewett, and Carter in the fact that the main characters are all young girls. They each have to make decisions throughout the story that may have a huge impact on their future. For example in The Little Red Cap when she made the decision to stray off the path or in The White Heron when the girl didn't give up the location of the bird to the man. They had to make these seemingly small decisions that would actually have a large impact on the end of the story. I saw proairetic code in The Little Mermaid when you knew that the littlest mermaid wanted to be in the human world and she continued to do things to make this happen, such as saving the man, visiting the sea witch and then falling in love with a human so she would be able to have a soul unlike the mermaid. I saw hermeneutic code when she is wondering if the man will realize she saved him and then made the decision to sacrifice herself in the end of the story. All of the earlier fairy tales are more gruesome and some of them do not have happy endings like all of the fairy tales do now. The events have been altered in today's fairy tales to make the world seem perfect to children, and nobody wants to watch a depressing fairy tale.
Blog 1
1) The works of the Grimm Brothers and Oates, Jewett, and Carter are similar in the sense that they all deal with young girls that face some sort of morale dilemma. They all have to make a decsion that will effect their futures and essentially change their lives as they know it. The differences lie on how obvious these dilemmas are. The Grimm stories have more of a lesson that is being taught, a character does something that you should learn from. Oates, Jewett, and Carter all have more underlying lessons that you need to figure out. Also the Oates, Jeweet, and Carter stories have a more realistic sense to them while the Grimm stories are much more whimsical. 2) In the story of the Little Mermaid the reader can easily find the structure of the narrative. In the story the youngest Mermaid has something that is very much different about her, this involves the hermeneutic code. This can be seen through that her garden is very different from the other girls as it does not contain the usual undersea flowers and that she has a large statue of a human in it which leads one to think that she has more planned for herself. It can also be seen when she when she rescues the young prince, one wonders what will become of this. The proairetic code can be seen when she goes to the sea witch and gives up her voice for legs. This leaves the reader wondering what the resolution will be and how she will cope with the pain in her legs as well as the inability to use her voice. Eventually there is the stories problem which lies in that she will die if she does not get the prince to marry her. The resolution comes when he tells her he loves another woman and marries her causing the mermaid to die but then becomes some sort of ghost or angel or whatever. 3) The Grimm stories comapred with the Disney ones are both different and similar. They are similar because the main idea is kept (i.e. Cinderalla is unloved by her crappy stepmother and goes to the ball and wins the prince). They are different because the Grimm stories have a lot more gore and death in them. They are like this because the original intent of the Grimm brothers was to scare little kids into not doing immoral things and thus fear would keep them from lying, or selling their soul to Satan. The Disney films are meant to entertain little kids. They have nice lessons about how good alwasy triumphs over evil with the help of talking, singing, and dancing animals. They contain little or no gore and the only people that die are the evil people that deserve it.
Blog Assignment #1
In the Brothers grim and the Hans Christian Andersen stories the girls sacrifice themselves. In "Little Red Cap" the girl goes to her grandmothers to bring her wine and cake, which it just a weird combo, to help her. she falls for the temptation on the path but tries to regain regain her honor so to say. In "Cinderella" the girl also losers her mother but gives her the abilty to die in peace because she will always be pure or some such thing. She has to endure her overbearing father and three strangers ruleing over her as if she were an unwanted slave. however she stays to her promise and in the end she "overcomes" her tyrannical rulers. In "The Little Mermaid" the girl gives up all she knows for a prince that walks on land. she gives her voice and endures pain beyond all knowledge, not to mention if the prince happens to marry another girl she dies. this of course is what happens the prince marries another, however the little mermaid is given a choice. she can kill the man she loves and return to the life in the sea or suffer the fate she has come to. she choses to die, but she becomes something more and has the ability to get to heaven, which is not a norm for her kind. See in all these the girls suffer great pain and overcome evil in order to overcome the evil which is hurting them. they endure the pain from the start, but end up happy. In the other stories its just the opposite. the girls are pretty happy from the start. life is good, a little boring or crapy here and there but no where near the other stories. they all choice the evil which is tempting them. in " A White Heron" Sylvia lives in the country with her grandmother. life is dull but good. she fetches a cow, walks the woods, the ussual loner stuff. she happens upon a ornathologist in her walk with the cow. he goes home with her and gives her his life story. he tells that he is looking for a White Heron and will give her ten dollars if she can find it. Money and it ability to corrupt. she never did tell him but the point is she was close the hardship is toward the end. in the other story connie lives life fast and goes out to often. Arnold friend gets the best of her. she fell for his lies and it was to late. in the end she to chose the evil, not for her self but for her family. and in the last story it is obvious she herself became a wolf. enough said. its starts good and she goes evil. that is how those stories differ from each other. "In the Company of Wolves" the story follows plot progression time more than realistic time. it jumps around and gives points to other parts of the story. The opening two lines are in my opion example of the Hermeneutic code. she basically tells you wolves "men" are pure shit. this is kinda of a hook that takes you in. you ask yourself why is that, so you read on. the best example of the proairetic code is when "Fear and flee the wolf; for, worst of all, he may be more than he seems." it kinda cuts the main story and goes into a side plot. these stories are so much better than the disney versions. they still have a meaning and point. the disney ones dont. they just make you all happy and warm, but they lack the purpose with which they were writen. they endings were changed to help a depressed society. when you upsett who wants to see a miserible movie with a sad ending. thats what i think
I think that the reason
I think that the reason Disney changed these stories is because they knew that these were more adult-related stories. No little kid thinks about cutting off a toe to fit it in to a shoe. Not too mention, there is nothing wrong with wanting to put a smile on peoples faces instead of a look of disgust.
Blog 1
The fairy tales of choice for this assignment are all interesting. "Little Red Cap" and "In Company of Wolves" did have similar plot lines except for one had a more gloomy ending than the other. I think that the "Little Mermaid" and "The White Heron" were similar because the girls had to make a selfish vs unselfish decision and obiviously chose the unselfish chioce which still giving them happiness. As for "Cinderella" and "Where are you going, Where have you been", I think they are similar because in both cases you have a girl of "innoncence" with unhappy family relationships that is given an opportunity to explore (for lack of a better term) if there is something more out there. In "The White Heron" I saw hermeneutic code when the traveler approacher the girl and when she knows of the heron that the man speaks of. I saw proairetic code when the girl found the nest from the tree and when she has to decide if she will tell the man of not. I think that all of these stories share the main idea with Disney. Disney makes it all prettier and happier but you have to take into consideration of how society has changed over time since the stories have been written. The important part is that, whether more direct or not, the same moral and life lessons are still being expressed.
I agree that both older and
I agree that both older and newer fairy tales were meant to give lessons, however, I think the newer ones take a more optimistic approach where as the older versions have a more pessimistic approach.
I don't necessarily agree
I don't necessarily agree that the modern day fairy tales are more optimistic. They are definately unrealistic however. According to these fairy tales in the end everything works out perfectly and everyone lives happily ever after. The older fairy tales show life as it really is. Yes, sometimes the hero gets what she truly desires, as Cinderella does with her prince, but people are hurt along the way. The older version of The Little Mermaid shows that even though someone fights hard for what they want they don't always get it. I think the better lesson is in the Little Mermaid because she sacrifices herself rather than comitting a cold blooded murder in order to return to her previous life as a mermaid. I see neither pure optimism nor pessimism in these tales.
fairy tales
I totally agree with the fact that today all those fairy tales have happier ending. Goals and values that people have are somehow different than what people beleived in the past. Flexibility counts more than rigidity.
Fairy Tales
The tales by Grimm and Andersen are similiar to their counter parts by Oates, Jewett, and Carter. The "Little Red Cap" and "In the Company of Wolves" are practically the same story differing primarily in their endings. The "Little Red Cap" is the standard fairy tale where the ladies are rescued by the huntsman but in "In the Company of Wolves" there is the use of the other meaning of wolves in that the man was a sexual predator and preyed on little red's innocences. The proairetic code for "Little Red Cap" include the mother's warning to stay on the path and the inevitable action of Little Red Riding Hood leaving the path on the way to her grandmother's house, the wolf learning of grandma and running ahead to her house and eating her, Red Riding Hood arriving to her grandmother's house and being eaten, and then being rescued by the huntsmen and the death of the wolf. The hermeneuic code for "Little Red Cap" include wondering what will happen when Little Red leaves the path going after the flowers, when she arrives at her grandma's house and sees that something is different about her grandmother, and the huntmens action of cutting open the wolf's belly while he was sleeping and replacing Little Red and her grandma with rocks. The original fairy tales are much more gruesome and used to scare children into good behavior where today's versions of the fairy tales are much more sweet and innocent and encourage children to behave not because of fear but because of the rewards they will receive for being good.
Perspective
Your perspective on the stories being used to teach children things is dead on! In the story "In the Company of Wolves" that's prevalent when the grandmother is talking about straying form the path. Even within the stories their were these "tales" of what would happen if you disobeyed for went against what was thought to be "right". I think you made a great point with that.
I also agree
I also agree that some of these stories were used to scare children into "doing the right thing". That is a good point.
I like the fact that you
I like the fact that you pointed out that the original stories were used to scare children into acting good or maybe doing what there parents tell them to do. That a really good point!!!
Very true. These versions
Very true. These versions could serve a different purpose than the Disney versions. Maybe each is suitable for a different age range.
Beware of Wolves
-I think that the tales told by Grimm and Anderson are obviously the more traditional stories that we hear in today's society (minus some of the gore), but I would argue that, say, tales like "Little Red Cap" and "Where are You Going.." are basically the same story. The only difference really I see is the time in which the events take place; I would say the the LRC tale is more medieval and the other is more modern with both having the evil, shady men, such as the wolf and Arnold, the reluctant but maturing females, such as the granddaughter and Connie, and the circumstances the young females were suposed to avoid (going off the path/hanging with boys), etc., etc. -"The Company of Wolves" is structured in that it presents, at the beginning of the story, how wolves are ferocious, stalking assassins that should be avoided at all costs (which leaves the reader wondering what will happen in the story-hermeneutic code) . It then leads into the story of how the girl is suposed to deliver food to her grandma's without engaging any foul creatures (which she does with the wolf/man). The plot under the proairetic code leads on with the girl taking the path to grandma's while the man/wolf takes a short cut through the woods and beats her there, eats grandma, pretends to be grandma, etc. Then in the end it takes sort of an eerie twist by having the wolf seduce the girl and she eventually goes to be with him.-I think the contemporary readings and movies of these tales are very similar to the tales we read. Obviously, the modern tales are intended for younger audiences so a lot of the blood and gore is cut out and most of the endings are happy endings instead of the sometimes seedy endings portrayed in some of the tales.
For Little Kids
I agree that Disney used different endings to appeal to little kids. If the endings were used as they were written most American parents probably wouldn't allow their kids to watch it.
Disney may have changed the
Disney may have changed the fairy tales to make them appeal to parents in the present, but the same can be said for what the original ones were designed to do. The earlier versions tended to be occuring in a time period when the saying spare the rod and spoil the child still made sense to society. Hence the original authors did the same thing as Disney just for a different societal mindset.
I think the Disney version
I think the Disney version is much more appropriate for children, too. The other versions are much more pessimistic and do not give much hope in the end. I don't think children would be able to sleep at night if they had the other versions as bed-time stories. :)
Blog Assignment #1
I'd have to say I feel the early readings of these fairy tales were more intellectually composed as literary pieces. The Disney takes on these stories seem more cheery, and not as blatantly grim like in the ending of The Little Mermaid and Cinderella. And I guess by saying the early readings were more intelligent, I just think that there is more meaningful metaphor in the story and more to draw from. The Disney movies add unnecessary characters just to appeal to children, and some people could even be offended by the Rastafarian crab in Disney's The Little Mermaid. Also there are fewer characters in the literary version, and the male characters are often depicted as evil in some sense as in the Disney version the male characters are like Prince Charming. The Disney versions almost basterdize these tales as there really isn't much to take from them either then a meaningless happy ending, and the original tales are more harsh in order to symbolize the essence of a Puritan society. Also there are no giant phallus castles in the story version of The Little Mermaid as there are in the Disney version. That is a major difference.
I believe that the older
I believe that the older version of the tales we have read are meant as warnings and lessons to pass down to children as the reach adolescents. The Disney movies take what is popular and try to make money, adapting the story to a modern, more marketable audience. The same stories are used over and over again but change for their intended audience and what values that audience values.
i like how you talked about
i like how you talked about being able draw more from the older versions of the story and that they were more intelligent.
I defiantly agree that
I defiantly agree that Disney stories are made too appeal a lot more towards children. And that Disney has made a point to add a lot more cheer to their stories instead of the grimey ones we get here. I think with the way these stories go, it gives you a lot more room to pay attention to the lesson to be learned and the fact that everything doesn't always have a good ending.
Blog #1
It is obvious that the point of view is different between the stories and varies in each slightly as with the brothers Grimm, Oates as well as Anderson’s tales were told in the traditional he, she of the third person limited where as Jewett and Carter’s stories were complete omniscient. I believe they were similar narratives but each had a different way of giving a lesson, I mean yes they are different in the sense that in the Little mermaid, Where are you Going and the Grimm stories you have a limited view of the story and in the A White Heron, In the Company of Wolves . But they are very similar in the sense that they all have a story and discourse and are almost parable in nature (to say that they could each teach a lesson).I thought that In the Company of Wolves used a great deal of hermeneutic code through its omnipresent narrative with the surprise twist at the end leaving you wondering and in anticipation of what next constantly with the small detailed descriptions of, well pretty much everything and of course at the end we see the proairetic code with the wolf as he eats the grandma.I think it is obvious that the society in which we are a part that recreated these stories are most certainly not as afraid of the nature or worried being focused on animals for instance when I go to sleep at night I might worry about someone stealing my car in the middle of the night but not of wild animals eating myself or my family nor do I wander wooded areas meeting people all who carry guns or knives. The time in which the Jakob and Wilhelm lived was a vastly different world than the one in which we live. I do think that the story Company of Wolves is interesting in the fact that it deals with the dark side of human nature, the phrase “I trust people but it’s the devil inside them that I don’t trust” comes to mind while reading that story (a direct quote from the Italian Job btw). Yes the stories are softened a bit and no longer have any traces of the detailed mutilation of the stories on which they are based but still the lessons taught to children are there the: don’t trust strangers, be a good person and don’t mistreat others, etc. are still relevant today.
Fairy Tales
Grimm and Anderson put a gory twist on fairy tales. They aren't as happy and uplifting as the ones that I am farmiliar with. I like that there are different versions. The other stories all gave a really creepy sexual vibe. I didnt expect for them to end in such ways. These stories are the same but told on different ways. The story I choose is The Little Mermaid. The hermeneutic code for me was imagining this perfect sea life that Anderson describes. I had such great visuals that I wanted to continue reading. proairetic codes included the ship wreck, the sea witch and the marriage between the prince and the princess. These stories are more bloody and dark, while newer ones have happy endings. I think they have changed to connect to a market of younger kids who would want to see a happy ending.
I also liked that their were
I also liked that their were two different versions. I had never read them before and was not expecting the stories to be so grusome or unhappy.
Yeah it's weird...
to actually find out how some of these tales actually ended (at times, in very demonic, seedy, or sexual ways) and how now in the present day, they have been transformed into children's tales- I bet some of the people in class will never look at these classic tales in the same way as they used to when they read/watch the modern-day versions
I know I wont
I know that I will not watch or read these or any other tales with the same perspective as I once did.
That's how I feel
I definitely won't look at these stories in the same way. I never knew that fairy tales had ever been written that ended without everyone being perfectly happy in the end.
Yeah I got the creepy sexual
Yeah I got the creepy sexual vibe from the In the Company of Wolves and Where are we Going? With little red riding hood and cinderella it seems that the lesson to be learned from reading/hear these stories isn't lost despite the lack of violence in the disney movies, maybe that's just me.
I agree that the messegeis
I agree that the messegeis still quite clear in some of the stories. It's just a different way of receiving the lesson.
The earlier versions of the
The earlier versions of the fairy tales were gruesome, and I can only guess they were told so as to teach children a lesson. However, contemporary fairy tales are aimed towards a lower age group of children therefore the ending and all the ghastliness has been taken out.
I think the fact that these
I think the fact that these older literary stories have made it into the modern main stream as fairy tales shows their literary importance for the time they were written as well as the effect the new stories have on today's readers.
I agree...
I think these tales, originally, were made to indirectly scare people, especially young women, to stay in their contemporary roles of the time and not to creep to far out into society and become more independent or else bad things could happen to them; obviously, this undercurrent is false-people in the modern world are free to do whatever they want, males and females alike, but in the past, gender roles played a much more prominent part in people's lives
This is a good point because
This is a good point because there a is pretty major distinction made between entertainment purposes and secular purposes. think the stories were obviously written to be cautionary tales, and I think that Disney was simply cashing in on the tales.
Response 2
I like this take on why the narratives were written how they were. It would give the parents a way to get their point across and also capture the children’s attention with the action and the different characters. It’s also clear again why Disney has taken into consideration what age group would be watching these newer versions.
I agree that maybe these
I agree that maybe these stories were a warning to children. Like how not to talk to strangers, dont lie, and dont wish for unrealistic things. It teaches a lesson in a harsh way.
Little Red Cap By Grimm
Little Red Cap By Grimm Hermeneutic Code: -The wolf meeting the girl/-The wolf eating the grandmother/-The wolf eating the girl/-The hunter hearing the wolf snoring/-The wolf being split open after falling asleep.Proairetic Code: -The hunter almost kills the wolf w/the grandmother and girl in it/-The hunter hears the grandma snore and goes in to find the wolf. Little Red Cap is narrated from a 3rd person point of view. The form of third person used is omniscient because the narrator knows practically everything that is going to happen. Little Red Cap is one of those stories that always have a conflict but no matter what there is a resolution to it in the end, and everyone lives happily.
I have to agree with you on
I have to agree with you on the whole proairetic and hermeneutic code usage in the Little Red Cap I think other than the Little Mermaid it probably had the most obviously observable application.
Fairy Tales
The Grimm Brothers and Andersen wrote stories that had conflicts which were resolved in the end, hence leading to a happy ending. Jewett and Carter on the other hand wrote stories that were ghastly, obscene, though at the same time their stories didn’t have a happy ending. However both stories follow the same topics and they both have conflicts. Both authors write in the same narrative which is 3rd person. However, both Carter and Jewett use 3rd person limited, where as Grimm and Andersen use 3rd person omniscient.
I have to say that I very
I have to say that I very much like the Disney versions of these stories. I like the happy endings instead of death, cut off limbs and such. As a little girl, I was raised watching Disney movies so I am more farmiliar with them. I like the other versions but wouldnt want to read them as a bed time story or anything like that.
I think that it is also
I think that it is also important to think about the reasons why the fairy tales where written and rewritten. As we saw in the movie we watched in class today the grandma was trying to use the gory story of the "Little Red Cap" to convince her granddaughter not to talk to strangers and to stay away from things that are considered unacceptable for little girls. Today's fairy tales are used as bed time stories to encourage children to use their imaginations.
I agree, I think a big part
I agree, I think a big part of telling stories is to encourage children to use their imagination. Children may not always see the moral of the story that is trying to be conveyed, but they will definitely use their imagination.
Yes I agree that children
Yes I agree that children use their imagination, but I also think they do learn goals and ideas from these fairy tales or stories. Though the stories are not black and white telling the child not to talk to strangers or what not, but some children do see the meaning or backbone of the story. If not, the parents can always draw back on the lessons in the stories and use them for their own morals.
I agree children are not
I agree children are not always able to grasp the morals behind stories, in fact there are some adults who have a hard enough time realizing what the true point of the story is. Children also are not able to recognize the symbolism behind particular things and realize why they actually may have been put into the story.
I think a big difference
I think a big difference here also rests with the time periods, which these stories were written versus the time the Disney movies were made. It is more like our culture now, and especially Disney to sugarcoat many things in order to make make more money.
Generational Difference is Key
When someone hears or reads a story, they will retell it in their own way with their own words. Just as virginity, innocence, and evil played on the values and emotions of older audiences, Disney is excellent and attracting family and young children and adapt the stories to their own version. This could mean replacing gore with humor or leave out elements of a story all together, but you are right that Disney is more about money and imagination of young minds, in keeping with modern western family values of their audience than caring about teaching lessons of old time periods.

Assignment 1
The works of the Brothers Grimm tend to be shorter than there counter parts with lessons that are simpler and not as specific as seems to be the case with the other fairy tales. The tales by Oates, Jewett, and Carter are more elaboratly told in a way that expands on the initial purpose of being a life lesson. The Oates and etc fairy tells tend to show their life lessons much more specifically than the Brothers Grimm who leave a little wiggle room for the interpretation of the lesson to be learned. In the Jewett fairy tale it is possible to observe that early on the hermeneutic code of suspense applies to the situation. It is the case when a whistle occurs and one wonders what is the cause and what will result from this. Later on the proairetic code is applied when wonders hoe the girl will respond to the question of the heron's location. The structure also follows in a manner that goes from general to specific. Such as the hunter(doesn't sound like an ornithologist) who first tells of looking for all kinds of birds. It isn't till later that he asks specifically about the heron. The early fairy tales tend to portray an environment that is dangerous, particularly to the youth, and that it is from these stories that they must learn lessons lest they should learn them painfully and personally. The newer interpretations by Disney offer an optimistic view of life and they have a more entertainment orientated aspect. The new fairy tales are to show that good things can happen not that bad things do happen. Newer fairy tales are also marketed as entertainment in the present not as useful lessons.